How did you and Lisa get on with getting a phone camera Desmond ? I purchased the iPhone 4 just recently and it has traveled fine in my bag with the debris for nearly a week now. The thing i don't like about it is that the screen gets yukki smeary looking real fast . I have got a protective film over it and it does the same .However,mostly it's very user friendly and I'm having fun adding new apps ..(only the useful ones ofcourse , fantastic torch etc. ) I havn't taken any startling photos with it and need to experiment more but have seen some really lovely ones other people have taken with the same model. I took this one this arvo just to show you. Slight crop at the bottom and a wee touch up in photoshop but a bit much noise ..and size reduction didn't enhance it either. Am quite looking forward to doing some video stuff as it's a 32GB so a bit of room to spare. It's also quite handy to have easy internet connection and am not going to bother taking my laptop down to Wanaka next week. (i don't use it for photography and it's a heavy old clunker ) So just letting you know how it is for me a new user with a phone camera if it's any help.